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Article - Are You Preparing for SHTF or TEOTWAWKI?

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  1. twp

    twp Moderator Staff Member Survival Class Instructor

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    This is a multi-part article and I will update this thread and post as the other parts become available.

    The author makes some good points about the difference and why our preps are also different.

    Part 1) Are You Preparing for SHTF or TEOTWAWKI- Part 1, by 3AD Scout - SurvivalBlog.com

    Part 2) Are You Preparing for SHTF or TEOTWAWKI- Part 2, by 3AD Scout - SurvivalBlog.com


    Some effort is made to show how Prepping is different, depending on where you live and whether you have a BOL separate from your main home.

    Worth reading.
     
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  2. Atlas

    Atlas Administrator Staff Member Survival Class Instructor

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    That is a good article.
     
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  3. lonewolf

    lonewolf Well-Known Member

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    TEOTWAWKI, I have survived many SHTF events some many times over and come out the other side as I am sure many other preppers have.
     
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  4. twp

    twp Moderator Staff Member Survival Class Instructor

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    I've edited the OP to include the second part of the article.

    lonewolf; I've also had my world come apart and had to restart my life. I learned from those events. Fortunately, I've never had to experience a crisis event which impacted more than a handful of other people... but I do prep for that kind of event.
     
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  5. lonewolf

    lonewolf Well-Known Member

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    unemployment...about 3 times-long periods before I found another job.
    2 failed marriages(not including the current one).
    both parents are deceased as is most of the extended family.
     
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  6. Atlas

    Atlas Administrator Staff Member Survival Class Instructor

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    I too have had to deal with divorce and job loss. Luckily I have come out for the better most of the time. Preps definitely made lack of income easier.

    The natural disasters I have been through were always close, but never that close. The Loma Preita earthquake in the 80's shook my house, but we were otherwise unaffected. Several forest fires have given us a scare, but never come on our property.

    One thing about California, at least we don't have hurricanes or tornadoes here where I live.
     
  7. tulpa23

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    We do have an occasional tornado, but rare and small. The firenados, we’re having now, mucho bad.
     
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  8. lonewolf

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    no we don't have hurricanes or tornado's here either.
     
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    Atlas Administrator Staff Member Survival Class Instructor

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    Firenadoes. Seems ridiculous, but it sure is a real thing.

    The tornadoes have mostly been little guys at this point, but one of the local socialists told me climate change is going to make them worse. Sure it will.
     
  10. twp

    twp Moderator Staff Member Survival Class Instructor

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    What? You don't believe their convictions on climate change? Why, that's just un-Californian!
    Now, if you were to call it weather, like the rest of us do, then you'll be forced to leave the area. When in Rome, Prep like a Roman. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  11. lonewolf

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    when I was a kid we had separate seasons, these days the seasons all seem to be the same.
     
  12. Atlas

    Atlas Administrator Staff Member Survival Class Instructor

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    I won't argue that things are changing, but I don't believe Al Gore.
     
  13. lonewolf

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    I do think that human activity does contribute to climate change, to not do so I think is a bit naive, and I haven't heard anything about Al Gore for years.
     
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    Atlas Administrator Staff Member Survival Class Instructor

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    Sure, I know that we have an effect on the environment, but I also believe that weather patterns change naturally.
     
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    I think we have altered and increased that change.
     
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  16. twp

    twp Moderator Staff Member Survival Class Instructor

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    Al Gore invented the Internet. He told us so! :p

    My opinion is that the Sun has a much greater impact on our world weather system than we humans do. I'll point you to the research on weather cycles and Sun cycles. Don't Google(r) this, because that will give you a biased set of data. Use another search engine such as Startpage.com.

    The question posed in this thread still asks if WE (You and I) are making preparations for SHTF or TEOTWAWKI. Those can be different. I think of them as separate levels of disaster. More than just personal troubles and tending toward the long-term, wide spread side of disasters.

    My answer to the the question is: yes. My preps (food, gear, skills, planning) may all be applied to a large scale crisis (SHTF/TEOTAWKI), By their nature, they also work for minor crises such as being stuck away from home by an auto breakdown or suffering a personal illness which prevents me from working.

    At the same time, I do have preps which are more applicable to short-term events, like my bike repair kits, 72hr. BOB/GHB. They are part of my overall prepper plans.
     
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  17. lonewolf

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    these terms can get people confused, SHTF can mean just a minor event to some, TEOTWAWKI is also confusing and sometimes scary to some, I usually use the term post COLLAPSE instead.
     
  18. Atlas

    Atlas Administrator Staff Member Survival Class Instructor

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    All three of those terms confuse the heck out of me. They seem to be interchangeable and the line you have to cross to get there is so grey no one knows where it is.

    To me SHTF is when things go bad. Could be breaking an ankle on a hike, getting stuck in my 4X4 in the woods, an argument with the old lady or an accident at work. The other end of that is job loss, divorce, a natural disaster limited war nearby, etc.

    TEOTWAWKI is more like an asteroid, world war, financial collapse, coupe, etc.

    What does Collapse mean to you?
     
  19. lonewolf

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    collapse means its all a bit "Mad Max", WROL, no power, no food in the shops, looting, arson, I would say no Police but we pretty much got that now where I live.
     
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    I think of collapse as the failing of our economy and availability of essentials for that reason, because of the root cause, collapse is widespread and not quickly resolved.
     
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